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Old 10-09-2017, 14:40
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On an annual week-long pilgrimage to the Wye last week, I was introduced to a swim packed with 7-8lb barbel, with allegedly some going into double figures. That's the good news. The bad news was this far-bank run was also full of hidden snags. The first time I fished it I hooked 24 barbel, landing only eight. Apart from a couple of hook pulls, the rest were lost to cut-offs, both above and below the feeder. Not good for either fish welfare, or my pocket.

I did the usual stuff such as keeping the rod high while playing the fish, and giving them serious stick to get them off the bottom ASAP, but to little avail. I routinely use the Enterprise snag-safe run rings, and they didn't save me once, so it wasn't purely the feeder getting stuck between rocks. I also resorted to holding the rod, touch legering, to hit the bites as quickly as possible, Great fun, but no improvement on converting hooked fish to landed fish. Later in the week I also tried float fishing, again great fun but nowhere near as productive as presenting a stationary bait - and I still hooked into snags (including another angler's lost rig).

Both mono and my PowerPro hook lengths were cut like cotton. Coated braid hook lengths were a slight improvement, but even they came back partially stripped after barely minutes in the water. I didn't have any rig tubing to use above the feeder, perhaps that's one answer.

As far as I could tell, the snags were mainly large stones/rocks. Although the gravel was fairly fine on the near-bank, as I waded out the stones got larger and larger as I headed out towards the far bank.

I've seen Bill Walford mention a Kynaston shock leader inn earlier thread, which seems worth a look. Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts (other than changing swims, which I did anyway) on other tactics or rig components I may have missed.
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Old 10-09-2017, 15:45
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Sounds frustrating Steve.
Nothing worse than leaving fish with end gear attached. I'm sure you're get some better advice from guys on here than I can offer.
There's a couple of swims on the Stour that I like but the riverbed is strewn with 70's engineering masonry and boulders which has lost me some fish.
I don't usually fish feeders as I reckon they are just too prone to snagging and also too in yer face for cute clear water barbel, but I was still losing fish using pva.
One of the swims could be fished from downstream which I did and used Greased Weasel clear shock leader and Strip Tease hook length which worked a treat. I didn't bother with the other swim again as there was only grief for me and the barbel there.
I've watched hooked barbel on the Wye bury their heads behind every boulder when attempting to land them upstream with rod held high in some swims, and I wonder if fishing and playing them downstream sometimes makes a difference?
I too will be interested to hear what others say.
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Old 10-09-2017, 17:30
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I fished a swim on the Tidal Trent a few weeks ago, hooked one & got cut off on my hooklength landed the next & then got cut off again.. That was enough for me not worth a fish so I dropped down a peg upstreaming. Problem solved no more cut offs if it's viable it's worth a shot. If not try drawing them into a snag free swim they are there for a reason.
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Old 10-09-2017, 18:18
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Sounds frustrating Steve.
Nothing worse than leaving fish with end gear attached. I'm sure you're get some better advice from guys on here than I can offer.
There's a couple of swims on the Stour that I like but the riverbed is strewn with 70's engineering masonry and boulders which has lost me some fish.
I don't usually fish feeders as I reckon they are just too prone to snagging and also too in yer face for cute clear water barbel, but I was still losing fish using pva.
One of the swims could be fished from downstream which I did and used Greased Weasel clear shock leader and Strip Tease hook length which worked a treat. I didn't bother with the other swim again as there was only grief for me and the barbel there.
I've watched hooked barbel on the Wye bury their heads behind every boulder when attempting to land them upstream with rod held high in some swims, and I wonder if fishing and playing them downstream sometimes makes a difference?
I too will be interested to hear what others say.
I'd agree with you Dave about feeders and clear waters in normal circumstances, but when you have a shoal of Wye barbel competing for food, they really don't seem to care. They will even take a pellet or boil on the drop seconds after the feeder crashes in.
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Old 10-09-2017, 18:33
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I'd agree with you Dave about feeders and clear waters in normal circumstances, but when you have a shoal of Wye barbel competing for food, they really don't seem to care. They will even take a pellet or boil on the drop seconds after the feeder crashes in.
Yes mate,... badly crafted post on my part,... I meant Stour and Avon summer low clear conditions.
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Old 10-09-2017, 18:43
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Most durable rig I've come across is an inline feeder like thiis......
http://www.nisafeeders.co.uk/inline-...nd-feeder.html
With a good length of rig tube over the mainlineand a short coated hook link other than thatt it it just a case of moving on I reckon in less you fancy trying super durable flouro
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Old 10-09-2017, 20:42
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Id agree that if it's possible get downstream and cast back up to the fish, have found this def helps in snaggy swims.
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Old 10-09-2017, 20:56
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Steve,
An update!!!

Only fished one more trip ( three evenings) since I started using the Kryston Shockleader but I didn't get cut off in that time. I did land one fish that would have certainly been a lost fish as the Kryston was well chewed up. I just cut back the leader six inches, retied and was away again As you say you need to get the rod high, lift their heads and keep 'em up. I'm not going to say it's problem solved as next trip I could be swiftly kicked in the knackers and be back to square one but it certainly gave me the confidence to fish on.

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Old 10-09-2017, 22:19
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If it's rough ground I use a very heavy fluorocarbon (20lb+) hooklength as part of a combi-rig. I couple this with running ledgers on Enterprise snag safe lead clips and PVA bags. If it's submerged snags, I try to avoid fishing too close to them.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:13
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said this so many times now, for rocky and flinty bottoms try amnesia, the stuff is oblivious to shary edges ect even the zebra mussels at harefield couldn,t cut through it
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