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Old 04-10-2017, 14:46
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The need to pack our gear away in quivers at the end of the session all geared up and ready to go next time , without checking to see if the hook length has not been compromised is a common problem.

We all do it
True Neil, but these days I use quick change hook length beads and change my hooklengths very regularly. I also re-rig (discard bottom 3m of my mainline) after most session, sometimes even after I've blanked (a rare occurrence ... not )
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Old 04-10-2017, 16:34
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Yes that is so true. Easy to chafe it when packing up in the dark, hell I left a net and handle behind the other night, didn't know until I got to the river 3 days later, no net or handle - went back to the peg and there it is in the long grass!
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Old 05-10-2017, 00:15
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Interesting thread this . One thing that puzzles me . How does stripping back the coating on the braid allow the bait to ' act more naturally '' ? Presuming we are talking about ledgering , the fact that the bait is in effect held in a fixed position by the lead will negate any supposed benefit of stripping back the braid or am I just being daft ?
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Old 05-10-2017, 00:36
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Interesting thread this . One thing that puzzles me . How does stripping back the coating on the braid allow the bait to ' act more naturally '' ? Presuming we are talking about ledgering , the fact that the bait is in effect held in a fixed position by the lead will negate any supposed benefit of stripping back the braid or am I just being daft ?

....if that was the case Mike, surely a ledgered baited hook on (say) 30lb fluoro would act as naturally as one on 5lb uncoated braid
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Old 05-10-2017, 00:40
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I don't know Terry , that's what I'm trying to understand . What I'm trying to get my head round is how a static bait , is made to act more naturally by stripped back braid
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Old 05-10-2017, 01:08
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But I don't think a ledgered bait on a very soft hooklink IS totally static..it just doesn't move downstream. Baits are often 'sucked up' into the fishes mouth, and on a highly flexible hooklength this will happen more naturally (IMHO)
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:21
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mike, try leaving about an inch stripped back, enables the bait to waver more naturally but not leaving enough stripped braid to chafe or cut on flinty or rocky bottom unless the fish rubs its lips on the bottom trying to unhook itself but with barbel thats probably not going to happen
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:55
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OK John , that'd a useful tip . I don't use braid for hooklinks or mainline but as can be seen I am curious as to the presentation of bait issue , i.e.. making the bait appear more natural . Neil re the wafting about point you make . I can sort of see what you are saying but wouldn't a bait on a static ledger be more natural just staying still rather than being in one place but wafting at the same time ? I have watched a few videos on U tube of barbel feeding under water and to be honest they aren't particularly subtle in their approach, appearing to suck anything off the bottom with gay abandon including stones , sticks and all manner of detritus .
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Old 06-10-2017, 17:13
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A question about coated braid ? In the past I have used 10lb mono for my hook links on the Lower Severn with out any problems in the past up until the last time I was out ? when I lost a hook link to a snag . The mono hook link had caught on a snag and broke .

I am now thinking of changing to coated braid for my hook links and was wondering if there is any reason not to strip back the coating when tying the coated braid to the hook ? Will it make any difference by not stripping the coating back when tying the hook ?
My original question was ..... Will stripping the coating back make any difference when tying the hook ? People have suggested the bait acts more natural if the coating is stripped back a couple of inches when tying the hook ?

Assuming some one is fishing at night in darkness . Would a Barbel be able to see what looks natural and what not looks natural in the dark ?
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Old 06-10-2017, 22:52
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Joe, answer 1, is yes much easier to tie and get through the hookeye if stripped,
2nd is in darksness the fish are following a scent or flavour trail and are not very likely to spot the line in darkness mate.
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