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Old 02-10-2017, 22:40
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I thibk Bob should now be banned
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Old 03-10-2017, 04:04
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Three 10mm elips (new shape) drilled and hair-rigged worked for me last week.

Bob, if you're ever getting rid of anything else, you know who we are!

Anthony, you should have been a surgeon, how the hell do you drill a 10mm pellet without it splitting
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Old 03-10-2017, 07:40
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Bob-does freezing pellets have any real effect on them in your opinion?
I asked Hinders the same question, & their reply was a bit...vague, to say the least!
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Originally did freezing pellets as a bit of an experiment as some pellets seemed to go off more rapidly than others. I occasionally took a frozen few out, examined them and then tried them in a fishing situation and still caught fish after many years so guess that the fish were still finding them attractive. Always preferred fresh baits and aware of the potential hazards.

Another point regarding freezing, I try to freeze base mixes when I can and have used these with sucess after many years. Whether fresh outfishes old or frozen is another thing and persnally prefer to use fresh when I can - especially milks - but that's just me.

Always been a bit unhappy with variations in certain commercial baits and the reasons given for the change.

Reckon a lot of the commercial bait scene is a bit of a 'con', based on my limited experience.

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Old 03-10-2017, 07:42
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I thibk Bob should now be banned
you are probably right Graham and currentlyconsidering banning myself
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Old 03-10-2017, 21:53
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Hinders Chris. Why change because of the shape, the recipe is still the same.
I cut a flat on 2 large cylindrical elips and glue them back to back on the hair.
Job done and results no different
Yes, I do the same with the WCB version. The old T7 elips were the best I found.
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Old 03-10-2017, 23:34
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Seven valley Barbel baits do a good variety of flavoured pellet hook baits
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Old 04-10-2017, 00:05
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how the hell do you drill a 10mm pellet without it splitting
Derek, I use these:

https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/esp-...ill-and-needle

The secret is not to try and drill it in one go. Drill so far, then blow the bits off the drill and continue. Used the same method again today with the usual success.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:09
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Hinders Chris. Why change because of the shape, the recipe is still the same.
I cut a flat on 2 large cylindrical elips and glue them back to back on the hair.
Job done and results no different
The original elips, which contained the astaxanthin ingredient, was far and away the best, all other versions including the current and final elliptical version, were massively inferior in my own experience. I'd also say that over the years, the ingredients changed many times, based on colour, smell and texture?

Not ******** in anyones bait fridge, but personally I've lost all confidence in hinders elips.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:34
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Bfw Salips had a slightly faster breakdown than the original 'Elips' and also contained astaxanthin - which acted as both pigment and powerful anti-oxidant.

Some ingredients will often change (white fish meal for example) depending on seasonal and economic availablity.

Lots of pellets (now and in the past) are produced in vast quantities for commercial fish farming and very often bagged up and redistributed under different names at large profits.

If you have the equipment, it's possible to pelletise particular formulations.

So called 'flavoured' pellets are just that - commercial pellets with a smattering of flavour. Easy to produce your own flavoured pellets with various attractants if you feel the need.
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:51
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you are probably right Graham and currentlyconsidering banning myself
Bob, it would be more apt if you 'binned' yourself.
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