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Old 12-01-2010, 19:28
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See Keith. I was listening.
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Old 01-02-2010, 17:21
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Anybody recommend some casting (not trolling) lures for Zed's ? There is a need for them to reach 10/12 ft when retrieved. Something to suit a rod with a guide lure weight 10-40g .

I've looked at the Rapala web site only to find most of their Deep Divers are either for trolling, or pathetically small (IMO) in both size (lenght) & weight. The only couple I thought worth considering DT Sure Set - 3 to 6m depths, upto 25g 7cm (3") Rattle as well !! or Clankin Rap - No vane, just let it sink. A straight running lure - apparently. So Bingo. Quick check on ebay - all in the US unless I want two.

Thanks in anticipation for your comments

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Old 01-02-2010, 19:48
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Steve, I have found 3 to 4 inch shads to be just the job, though, I tend to get as light a jig head as possible to get the best out of the lures own action, even the pre mounted jellies can sometimes be a bit too heavy.
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Old 01-02-2010, 21:55
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Cheers Will. Hadn't even thought about jigs when I posted (Old skool you see - Ex Big S man Understand your theory re reduced weight.

After a couple of hours on the net I arrived at :-

a) Rapala Shad Rap SR09 & b) Fox Replicants .

Any coments on these for very slow moving deep water ?

PS I'm going for the bigger fish

I can also see this getting expensive

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Old 02-02-2010, 08:50
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Steve,

buy yourself a jig mould and some hooks and make your own jig heads.
Then all you have to do is buy the rubber bodies and your away.

You can mix and match bodies and lead heads to suit conditions.


Also, regardless at to whether you make your own and or buy them, make sure you fit a stinger.
A stinger is a treble on a short length of wire, that runs through the rubber body and sits at the rear of the lure, just under the tail.
These stingers pick up the majority of the fish.

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Old 02-02-2010, 18:55
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Steve - Not sure about making my own just yet. Best I get to grips with this jig thing first!!

This is a trip back to lure fishing so I haven't ever looked at the rubber imitations before, although I have found lost/discarded 'split' ones and I always thought they looked interesting. At the weekend I may go see if my local dealer has some of the Fox Pro Shads. So, more questions. For the 10g-40g rod what size shad (5.5, 7 or monster 11" Don't think so ) ,what size heads (15,20,25,30g) Don't tell me - some of each . Got the message re stinger treble. Won't be a problem - I assume it's best to get the 'internal' wire to exit around the vent area so the tail action isn't impeaded. Guess I'm now looking for braided mainline too - Power Pro ?.........told you it would get expensive
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Old 06-02-2010, 21:58
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Originally Posted by Keith Speer View Post
...........................the only method that crosses the divide between the two species is The Fireball and we use that with gear capable of catching very large Zander or Pike!

Tight Lines
I missed this the first time around . Presumably Keith means these :-

http://www.brentwoodangling.co.uk/fo..._fireballs.htm

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Old 09-02-2010, 10:12
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Well, I have never seen a zander, let alone caught one, so apologies if this question is just too silly.

How effective might a lobworm or a bunch of lobworms be as a zander bait?

Anyone done much Zedding with them?
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:12
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They regularly get caught on non fish baits.

One off my syndicate water came to a boilie and weighed over 14lb.

The current British record, taken off the Severn a couple of seasons ago was caught on a pellet intended for bream.

Maggots turn up a few Zeds too (especially red mags).

Jelly worms and grubs produce plenty of Zeds, so no reason why a bunch of worms or a big lobby wont.

I'd still prefer to have a nice fresh Roach on my hooks.........

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Old 09-02-2010, 12:45
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Yep - I've caught small Zeds on worms in the past and a mate had a 6lb'er on a bright yellow pop-up in the middle of a winter night.

Steve - I thought the Severn record had been broken with a fish from the 'Eastside' - 22lb+. Was it never accepted ?

The Severn fish being 21.05 - I'm sure a 25lb'er 'aint too far away

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