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Old 09-10-2017, 01:01
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Joe, answer 1, is yes much easier to tie and get through the hookeye if stripped,
2nd is in darksness the fish are following a scent or flavour trail and are not very likely to spot the line in darkness mate.
Agreed. Just make sure there are no carrots in your loose feed.....
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:30
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My original question was ..... Will stripping the coating back make any difference when tying the hook ? People have suggested the bait acts more natural if the coating is stripped back a couple of inches when tying the hook ?

Assuming some one is fishing at night in darkness . Would a Barbel be able to see what looks natural and what not looks natural in the dark ?
....it's a matter of not feeling stripped back braid Joe, not seeing it. I don't think any line can be seen in the depths, at night, by a barbel ...but stripped back braid would feel more natural (weed-like?) than say mono, fluoro, or coated braid. IMHO
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:43
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Hi men,

Striping back a bit will help the hook move around / drop into the lips of the fish . Someone once wrote "barbel have anti-eject mouths " , i think that true , its the way they feed .

Best coated braid iv found by miles is the Gardner Ultra , lovely stuff , good colours . A couple of years ago in france i was using it reversed with the stiffer coating exiting the hook and the softer section nearer the lead . This allowed the rig to settle nice around the choddy pads i was fishing too , but the hook swivelled and turned into the carps mouth , worked .

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Old 10-10-2017, 03:50
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For me, and to answer Joe's question; the inner core of coated braid is particularly soft and supple and the general idea is not that it makes the bait behave more naturally but that a barbel will feel less resistance with an initial contact with the bait.

Tying a hook with unstripped coated braid isn't recommended as the coating wears off easily and the knot may become lose. That in itself might make very little difference, but why take a chance?
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:11
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Tying a hook with unstripped coated braid isn't recommended as the coating wears off easily and the knot may become lose. That in itself might make very little difference, but why take a chance?
We each do what we do, there are no rights or wrongs!

I've used coated braid for about 10 years (or more probably), Sufix Chameleon. I only fish for barbel these days.

I never strip the coating back, preferring the stiffness to remain, and tie knots with coating intact (except after completion I strip the coating just from the hair). I've never had a knot come loose, either at the hook (knotless knot) or the swivel (twice through the eye, 5 turn grinner).

But never say never, I'll be doubly careful tonight Richard
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Old 11-10-2017, 18:31
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Ditto everything Paul has said, except i don't strip my hair ( cos i haven't got much ) i use Suffix coated braids too, never experienced any kind of problem.
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Old 12-10-2017, 20:25
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We each do what we do, there are no rights or wrongs!

I've used coated braid for about 10 years (or more probably), Sufix Chameleon. I only fish for barbel these days.

I never strip the coating back, preferring the stiffness to remain, and tie knots with coating intact (except after completion I strip the coating just from the hair). I've never had a knot come loose, either at the hook (knotless knot) or the swivel (twice through the eye, 5 turn grinner).

But never say never, I'll be doubly careful tonight Richard
Well I stand corrected, and happily so.

Yes, I use Sufix also, as well as Kryston - whichever comes to hand.
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